[Bnomic-private] Guess who's back

[Orc In A Spacesuit]

I leave for 2 days and all hell breaks loose...
I posted this to SpoonDiscuss and bd's new forum.  Hopefully it'll get 
through somewhere; if you get two copies, you know what to do...

I would just like to point out that all the mess in the past 2-3 days, 
including 1000 CFI's, jumping off the grid, and more, are completely and 
nicely handled in my prop.  So once I get it finished please consider it.  
Hopefully it will not have loopholes; I've been working very hard to make it 
not have any for a while.
Anyway, here are a few replies.  I've decided to ignore the mess of rules 
coming down for now, as well as all the confusing stock market fixing 
proposals and fixes to those props.

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Glotmorf: I spend 10 Force Points to train Orc in a Spacesuit up to Padawan.

Orc: Thanks!

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Glotmorf: Secondly, you can't join Team Crimson, since it's already got two 
members whilst
Team Turquoise only has one.

Orc:  Actually, Athena has a team member too.  I forget who, and can't 
access the roster right now.

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Glotmorf: I leave the grid, citing... [removed for brevity]

Orc: I'm sure you remember me trying that, and pretty much everyone here 
agrees that that is not what that statement means.  Sure, you interpert it 
that way, but most of us don't, the Judge in the CFI this may cause won't 
either, and hopefully Dave will agree with me.

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Glotmorf: Yeah, it is.  Urinating on most computers would cause them to 
short out ("Emits
showers of sparks") or otherwise become inoperable.  This would trigger a 
State
of Emergency, which would be a gamestate change.  Therefore urinating on 
Joel's
computer is an unpermitted gamestate change, and thus illegal.

Orc: MAY cause the computer to short out.  What if it's the keyboard?  That 
won't actually short out the computer, and may even leave the computer 
functional.  Plus, a shorting out wouldn't be an actual change, but be the 
cause of a change.

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Glotmorf: Have a look at Rule 469, Dimensional Realms.  I created the idea 
of realms
because of the idea that IRL we naturally occupy three dimensions, and don't
necessarily move in any additional dimensions no matter how much we move 
around
in our basic three.  Therefore, for two players to be dimensionally in the 
same
location, it should only be necessary for them to be within a certain 
distance
of each other in all but three dimensions.

I made it fuzzy because there are just too many variances in player 
dimensions
to count on an exact location.  This is also where dimships came in, because 
if
all you need are all dimensions but three in common, it makes it hard (but 
not
impossible) to avoid a dimship coming up and shooting at you...or for the 
other
player to keep you from doing the same in response.

So I think the currently defined realms would be more workable and more 
playable
than your locations.

Orc:  Yes, I know what I recently said about abcdefghij is crappy.  I just 
thought of it on the spur of the moment, and I can work in dimensional 
realms quite easily.  That's just a way to add them later.  If you still 
want realms and dimensions, which in the current rules are nothing but 
numbers, I can put them in.  Just say you want them still.

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Glotmorf: "It is legal to take from Orc in a Spacesuit gnomes."

Orc: Evil!  Evil Evil Evil!!!  Especially since I couldn't get to the 
internet for a few days!

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Wonko: The key part there is "would still allow the same degree of 
mutability we
have now in all other rules". Yours would make Chutzpah immutable too.

Besides, I could get around it by redefining precedence.

Orc: No rule can be totally immutable with the current rules.  Just take out 
my chutzpah line and you get the closest you can ever get to immutability 
with the current rules.

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BvS: To the other longer-running players: Is it just me, or are the newbies
coming in better at the game and/or sharper at the tongue lately?

Glotmorf: Some other Nomic game let out recently?  College students 
returning to their
dorms and accompanying internet access?  Or an amazing number of lurkers who
have been watching us for nweeks on end...?

Orc: For me, try a college kid at home for the summer stumbles upon the game 
of Nomic, and in 2 days finds B Nomic, that night reads the ruleset, and the 
next day joins the game.  Old and new people, what's your story?

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Wonko
Current Status: Wondering what the point of a Current Status message is.

Orc: Since the current roster isn't complete (missing things like 
mischiviousness) or current all the time, I was going to put my own 
'mini-roster' there, listing my current status if all the actions I did were 
legal (or, if there legality was questionable, before).  However, I started 
using it before I joined the game, and it kind of morphed into what it is 
now.

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Glotmorf: I kick bd in the ass.  Just because.  If there isn't sufficient 
justification in
the LOGAS to do it, I do it anyway, just without any honor attached.

Orc: Me too.

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Orc In A Spacesuit
Current Status: So preoccupied he can't even remember to alter his 
signature.


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