From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:47:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:47:22 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers > >>> I had an idea: What if we allowed people to join the game not as full > >>> players, but as 'miniplayers' - people who could only do things like >run > >>> around on the Grid, buy stocks, etc. So people who like the idea of >the > >>> Grid > >>> could do the Grid thing, but they wouldn't have to worry about making > >>> proposals or voting on things. For them, the Grid IS the game. For us, > >> they > >>> provide a way of making the Grid more interesting. Also, if they can >use > >>> the > >>> Stock Market, then they can provide that randomness we were talking >about > >> - > >>> if three dozen people are buying and selling stock, no single player >can > >>> exert too much influence, but the prices can still be based on how >well > >>> they > >>> sell. > >>> > >>> > >>> Is this a good idea, or am I nuts? > >>> I suppose those aren't mutually exclusive conditions, are they? > >> > >> You're not nuts, or at least not in this respect. uin had a similar >idea > >> with...what did he call them? "Disinterested" players? People who >didn't > >> participate in the grid, weren't subject to the sushi or gremlins or > >> anything like that, that only were involved in proposals, voting and > >> judging. I was against it at the time because it amounted to him >affecting > >> the game but not being affected by it, which I found objectionable. > >> > >> What you're suggesting is the crystallization of subsets of the game as > >> games in their own right, with a policy-making layer over top...sort of > >> like if the management of neopets.com was a nomic game. Interesting >idea, > >> but wouldn't it take rather a lot of work to make the subgames >something > >> people would want to play in their own right? At the moment, neither >grid > >> football nor gremball are up to the standards of average pbm games... > >> > >> Glotmorf > >> > > -Well, so far as there not being appreciably interesting subsets to the > > Game, that might be about to change a bit, or more accurately a metric > > buttload.. In any case, even if we as full players don't see the point >to go > > to a lower position, doesn't mean that others wouldn't be willing to >assume > > those positions. I think this is a viable thing to do, and so long as it > > didn't resemble Disintrest too much, I'd be willing to back it.- > >I suppose the people this most needs the approval of is the Ministers - >after all, they'd be the ones who'd have to track all the Miniplayers. >Although perhaps it would be better to have a Minister of Miniplayers - The >MiniMin, say - who would track all their attributes... > >As for the fact the football and gremball aren't up to pbm standards... >wait. > >-- >Wonko > -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen the new Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:12:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:12:49 -0400 From: Wonko dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers Quoth Baron von Skippy, >>>>> I had an idea: What if we allowed people to join the game not as full >>>>> players, but as 'miniplayers' - people who could only do things like >> run >>>>> around on the Grid, buy stocks, etc. So people who like the idea of >> the >>>>> Grid >>>>> could do the Grid thing, but they wouldn't have to worry about making >>>>> proposals or voting on things. For them, the Grid IS the game. For us, >>>> they >>>>> provide a way of making the Grid more interesting. Also, if they can >> use >>>>> the >>>>> Stock Market, then they can provide that randomness we were talking >> about >>>> - >>>>> if three dozen people are buying and selling stock, no single player >> can >>>>> exert too much influence, but the prices can still be based on how >> well >>>>> they >>>>> sell. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is this a good idea, or am I nuts? >>>>> I suppose those aren't mutually exclusive conditions, are they? >>>> >>>> You're not nuts, or at least not in this respect. uin had a similar >> idea >>>> with...what did he call them? "Disinterested" players? People who >> didn't >>>> participate in the grid, weren't subject to the sushi or gremlins or >>>> anything like that, that only were involved in proposals, voting and >>>> judging. I was against it at the time because it amounted to him >> affecting >>>> the game but not being affected by it, which I found objectionable. >>>> >>>> What you're suggesting is the crystallization of subsets of the game as >>>> games in their own right, with a policy-making layer over top...sort of >>>> like if the management of neopets.com was a nomic game. Interesting >> idea, >>>> but wouldn't it take rather a lot of work to make the subgames >> something >>>> people would want to play in their own right? At the moment, neither >> grid >>>> football nor gremball are up to the standards of average pbm games... >>>> >>>> Glotmorf >>>> >>> -Well, so far as there not being appreciably interesting subsets to the >>> Game, that might be about to change a bit, or more accurately a metric >>> buttload.. In any case, even if we as full players don't see the point >> to go >>> to a lower position, doesn't mean that others wouldn't be willing to >> assume >>> those positions. I think this is a viable thing to do, and so long as it >>> didn't resemble Disintrest too much, I'd be willing to back it.- >> >> I suppose the people this most needs the approval of is the Ministers - >> after all, they'd be the ones who'd have to track all the Miniplayers. >> Although perhaps it would be better to have a Minister of Miniplayers - The >> MiniMin, say - who would track all their attributes... >> >> As for the fact the football and gremball aren't up to pbm standards... >> wait. >> >> -- >> Wonko >> > -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen the new > Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em the MiniMinMin. And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. Teehee! -- Wonko Is having far too much fun with this. From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sat, 31 Aug 2002 23:45:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 23:45:08 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers > >>>>> I had an idea: What if we allowed people to join the game not as >full > >>>>> players, but as 'miniplayers' - people who could only do things like > >> run > >>>>> around on the Grid, buy stocks, etc. So people who like the idea of > >> the > >>>>> Grid > >>>>> could do the Grid thing, but they wouldn't have to worry about >making > >>>>> proposals or voting on things. For them, the Grid IS the game. For >us, > >>>> they > >>>>> provide a way of making the Grid more interesting. Also, if they can > >> use > >>>>> the > >>>>> Stock Market, then they can provide that randomness we were talking > >> about > >>>> - > >>>>> if three dozen people are buying and selling stock, no single player > >> can > >>>>> exert too much influence, but the prices can still be based on how > >> well > >>>>> they > >>>>> sell. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Is this a good idea, or am I nuts? > >>>>> I suppose those aren't mutually exclusive conditions, are they? > >>>> > >>>> You're not nuts, or at least not in this respect. uin had a similar > >> idea > >>>> with...what did he call them? "Disinterested" players? People who > >> didn't > >>>> participate in the grid, weren't subject to the sushi or gremlins or > >>>> anything like that, that only were involved in proposals, voting and > >>>> judging. I was against it at the time because it amounted to him > >> affecting > >>>> the game but not being affected by it, which I found objectionable. > >>>> > >>>> What you're suggesting is the crystallization of subsets of the game >as > >>>> games in their own right, with a policy-making layer over top...sort >of > >>>> like if the management of neopets.com was a nomic game. Interesting > >> idea, > >>>> but wouldn't it take rather a lot of work to make the subgames > >> something > >>>> people would want to play in their own right? At the moment, neither > >> grid > >>>> football nor gremball are up to the standards of average pbm games... > >>>> > >>>> Glotmorf > >>>> > >>> -Well, so far as there not being appreciably interesting subsets to >the > >>> Game, that might be about to change a bit, or more accurately a metric > >>> buttload.. In any case, even if we as full players don't see the point > >> to go > >>> to a lower position, doesn't mean that others wouldn't be willing to > >> assume > >>> those positions. I think this is a viable thing to do, and so long as >it > >>> didn't resemble Disintrest too much, I'd be willing to back it.- > >> > >> I suppose the people this most needs the approval of is the Ministers - > >> after all, they'd be the ones who'd have to track all the Miniplayers. > >> Although perhaps it would be better to have a Minister of Miniplayers - >The > >> MiniMin, say - who would track all their attributes... > >> > >> As for the fact the football and gremball aren't up to pbm standards... > >> wait. > >> > >> -- > >> Wonko > >> > > -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen the >new > > Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- > >We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em the >MiniMinMin. > >And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. > >Teehee! > >-- >Wonko >Is having far too much fun with this. > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from Scandanavia, they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they had lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal dentures, they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin Grin. Okay, someone else's turn... hmm, you folks should be exposed to Complex Complex...- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Sun, 01 Sep 2002 01:16:48 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 01:16:48 -0400 From: Wonko dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers Quoth Baron von Skippy, >>> -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen the >> new >>> Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- >> >> We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em the >> MiniMinMin. >> >> And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. >> >> Teehee! >> >> -- >> Wonko >> Is having far too much fun with this. >> > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini Rin > Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from Scandanavia, > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they had > lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal dentures, > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin Grin. So if e won a game of Rummy while drunk, e'd be MiniRinTinTin the SinFinMiniMiniMinMin and eir Tin Grin and Gin Gin Win? And if e had a big metal basin for holding metal dentures, and was in charge of regulating such bins, e'd Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with eir Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win? And if e got to noisy and was stabbed to death with a sewing implement, and all eir dentures were passed, in a lightweight plastic case made of thermoplastic polymers or copolymers of acrylic acid, methacrylic acid, esters of these acids, or acrylonitrile, on to an inheritor, then the Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin? -- Winko Is REALLY havin' too much fin with this From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sun, 01 Sep 2002 02:01:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 02:01:43 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers > >>> -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen the > >> new > >>> Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- > >> > >> We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em the > >> MiniMinMin. > >> > >> And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. > >> > >> Teehee! > >> > >> -- > >> Wonko > >> Is having far too much fun with this. > >> > > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini >Rin > > Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from >Scandanavia, > > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they >had > > lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal dentures, > > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin >Grin. > >So if e won a game of Rummy while drunk, e'd be MiniRinTinTin the >SinFinMiniMiniMinMin and eir Tin Grin and Gin Gin Win? > >And if e had a big metal basin for holding metal dentures, and was in >charge >of regulating such bins, e'd Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin >and >MiniTinGrinBinMin with eir Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win? > >And if e got to noisy and was stabbed to death with a sewing implement, and >all eir dentures were passed, in a lightweight plastic case made of >thermoplastic polymers or copolymers of acrylic acid, methacrylic acid, >esters of these acids, or acrylonitrile, on to an inheritor, then the Next >of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin >with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win who was Pinned with Pin >for >Spinning a Din would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, >and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin? > >-- >Winko >Is REALLY havin' too much fin with this > -Well, if the original was a French cartoon character from the WWII era, and enjoyed impersonating a shark, the inheritance recipient would be the Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. And if the recipient was a form of genie with a short temper and a smile, they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. And if they were also a member of a religious sect in _The Mote in God's Eye_, and recieved their inheritance in wax, and, in memory of the deceased, had a beer, they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, follower of Niven's Him, who would save them from Sin, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Parafinned Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin, drunk on Heineken. [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nomicvoice0@hotmail.com Sun, 01 Sep 2002 08:59:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 08:59:54 -0400 From: The Voice nomicvoice0@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers >From: "Baron von Skippy" >> >>> -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen >>the >> >> new >> >>> Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- >> >> >> >> We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em >>the >> >> MiniMinMin. >> >> >> >> And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. >> >> >> >> Teehee! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Wonko >> >> Is having far too much fun with this. >> >> >> > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini >>Rin >> > Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from >>Scandanavia, >> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they >>had >> > lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal >>dentures, >> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin >>Grin. >> >>So if e won a game of Rummy while drunk, e'd be MiniRinTinTin the >>SinFinMiniMiniMinMin and eir Tin Grin and Gin Gin Win? >> >>And if e had a big metal basin for holding metal dentures, and was in >>charge >>of regulating such bins, e'd Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin >>and >>MiniTinGrinBinMin with eir Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win? >> >>And if e got to noisy and was stabbed to death with a sewing implement, >>and >>all eir dentures were passed, in a lightweight plastic case made of >>thermoplastic polymers or copolymers of acrylic acid, methacrylic acid, >>esters of these acids, or acrylonitrile, on to an inheritor, then the Next >>of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >>MiniTinGrinBinMin >>with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win who was Pinned with Pin >>for >>Spinning a Din would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin >>Grins, >>and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin? >> >>-- >>Winko >>Is REALLY havin' too much fin with this >> >-Well, if the original was a French cartoon character from the WWII era, >and enjoyed impersonating a shark, the inheritance recipient would be the >Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin >Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, >and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the >titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. > >And if the recipient was a form of genie with a short temper and a smile, >they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin >Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin >Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a >Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin >full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. > >And if they were also a member of a religious sect in _The Mote in God's >Eye_, and recieved their inheritance in wax, and, in memory of the >deceased, had a beer, they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, follower >of Niven's Him, who would save them from Sin, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin >Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin >Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a >Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Parafinned Tin Grin Bin of >Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and >MiniTinGrinBinMin, drunk on Heineken. > > [[BvS]] > And if... nah. Remind me never to meet either of you. :) -0-THE VOICE-0- _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:36:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:36:25 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers On 9/1/02 at 2:01 AM Baron von Skippy wrote: >> >>> -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen >the >> >> new >> >>> Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- >> >> >> >> We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em >the >> >> MiniMinMin. >> >> >> >> And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. >> >> >> >> Teehee! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Wonko >> >> Is having far too much fun with this. >> >> >> > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini >>Rin >> > Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from >>Scandanavia, >> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they >>had >> > lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal >dentures, >> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin >>Grin. >> >>So if e won a game of Rummy while drunk, e'd be MiniRinTinTin the >>SinFinMiniMiniMinMin and eir Tin Grin and Gin Gin Win? >> >>And if e had a big metal basin for holding metal dentures, and was in >>charge >>of regulating such bins, e'd Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin >>and >>MiniTinGrinBinMin with eir Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win? >> >>And if e got to noisy and was stabbed to death with a sewing implement, >and >>all eir dentures were passed, in a lightweight plastic case made of >>thermoplastic polymers or copolymers of acrylic acid, methacrylic acid, >>esters of these acids, or acrylonitrile, on to an inheritor, then the= Next >>of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >MiniTinGrinBinMin >>with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win who was Pinned with Pin >>for >>Spinning a Din would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin >Grins, >>and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin? >> >>-- >>Winko >>Is REALLY havin' too much fin with this >> >-Well, if the original was a French cartoon character from the WWII era, >and >enjoyed impersonating a shark, the inheritance recipient would be the Next= >of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >MiniTinGrinBinMin >with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned >with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin >Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of >MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. > >And if the recipient was a form of genie with a short temper and a smile, >they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin= >Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin >Grin >Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din >while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin >full >of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. > >And if they were also a member of a religious sect in _The Mote in God's >Eye_, and recieved their inheritance in wax, and, in memory of the >deceased, >had a beer, they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, follower of Niven's= >Him, who would save them from Sin, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin= >Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, >and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while= >Swimming with Fin, and would get a Parafinned Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic >Resin >full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin,= >drunk on Heineken. *sigh* Okay...where'd I put that uzi? Glotmorf From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:34:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:34:28 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers On Sunday 01 September 2002 02:36 pm, Glotmorf wrote: > *sigh* Okay...where'd I put that uzi? I hand glotmorf the Uzi of fo izU eht fromtolg! Glotmorf must speak backw= ards=20 from now on! --=20 bd There's no easy quick way out, we're gonna have to live through our whole lives, win, lose, or draw. =09=09-- Walt Kelly From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:46:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 14:46:10 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers On 9/1/02 at 2:34 PM bd wrote: >On Sunday 01 September 2002 02:36 pm, Glotmorf wrote: > >> *sigh* Okay...where'd I put that uzi? > >I hand glotmorf the Uzi of fo izU eht fromtolg! Glotmorf must speak >backwards >from now on! This just makes it easier. I can simply mow down the lot of you and decide= where to go with the game from there. Somehow appropriate that a play-by-mail game has provision for a postal= victory... Glotmorf From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:47:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:47:53 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers >>> >>> -How about Mini Me instead of MiniMin? It's funnier, and I've seen >>>the >>> >> new >>> >>> Austin Powers movie too many times... mole.- >>> >> >>> >> We could appoint a Minister to name the MiniMin... We could call em >>>the >>> >> MiniMinMin. >>> >> >>> >> And if we chose a Miniplayer to do it, e'd be the MiniMiniMinMin. >>> >> >>> >> Teehee! >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Wonko >>> >> Is having far too much fun with this. >>> >> >>> > -And if that Miniplayer was a 1/8 sized clone dog, they would be Mini >>>Rin >>> > Tin Tin the Mini Mini Min Min. And if they were a heathen from >>>Scandanavia, >>> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min. And if they >>>had >>> > lost their teeth in an unfortunate luge accident and had metal >>>dentures, >>> > they'd be Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin Mini Mini Min Min and eir Tin >>>Grin. >>> >>>So if e won a game of Rummy while drunk, e'd be MiniRinTinTin the >>>SinFinMiniMiniMinMin and eir Tin Grin and Gin Gin Win? >>> >>>And if e had a big metal basin for holding metal dentures, and was in >>>charge >>>of regulating such bins, e'd Mini Rin Tin Tin the Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin >>>and >>>MiniTinGrinBinMin with eir Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win? >>> >>>And if e got to noisy and was stabbed to death with a sewing implement, >>>and >>>all eir dentures were passed, in a lightweight plastic case made of >>>thermoplastic polymers or copolymers of acrylic acid, methacrylic acid, >>>esters of these acids, or acrylonitrile, on to an inheritor, then the >>>Next >>>of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >>>MiniTinGrinBinMin >>>with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win who was Pinned with Pin >>>for >>>Spinning a Din would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin >>>Grins, >>>and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin? >>> >>>-- >>>Winko >>>Is REALLY havin' too much fin with this >>> >>-Well, if the original was a French cartoon character from the WWII era, >>and enjoyed impersonating a shark, the inheritance recipient would be the >>Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and >>MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin >>Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, >>and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the >>titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. >> >>And if the recipient was a form of genie with a short temper and a smile, >>they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin Tin >>Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, Tin >>Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for Spinning a >>Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Tin Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin >>full of Tin Grins, and the titles of MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin. >> >>And if they were also a member of a religious sect in _The Mote in God's >>Eye_, and recieved their inheritance in wax, and, in memory of the >>deceased, had a beer, they'd be the Grinning Thin-Skinned Djinn, follower >>of Niven's Him, who would save them from Sin, Next of Kin of the Mini Rin >>Tin Tin Sin Fin MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin with the Tin Grin, >>Tin Grin Bin, and Gin Gin Win, Tin Tin, who was Pinned with Pin for >>Spinning a Din while Swimming with Fin, and would get a Parafinned Tin >>Grin Bin of Acrylic Resin full of Tin Grins, and the titles of >>MiniMiniMinMin and MiniTinGrinBinMin, drunk on Heineken. >> >> [[BvS]] >> > >And if... nah. > >Remind me never to meet either of you. > >:) > >-0-THE VOICE-0- > -Voice? Never meet either of us.- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:51:19 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:51:19 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Miniplayers > > *sigh* Okay...where'd I put that uzi? > >I hand glotmorf the Uzi of fo izU eht fromtolg! Glotmorf must speak >backwards >from now on! > >-- >bd >There's no easy quick way out, we're gonna have to live through our >whole lives, win, lose, or draw. > -- Walt Kelly > -I beat the living crap out of bd for reinitiating Calvinball. Then I don the Cloak of Utter Hypocrisy and pull out the Duel Automatic Handguns of the Lobby Scene. Glotmorf must move in super slo-mo if e wishes to shoot me.- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:52:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:52:17 -0400 From: Wonko dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Big Grid A question for the Ordinance Minister... Would it get particularly harder for you to keep track of the Grid if it were bigger? I would think that for the most part, the size wouldn't matter too much except that you'd have to roll larger dice for picking random squares, but if it would make things very hard for you then perhaps I should reconsider one of my proposals... -- Wonko From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Tue, 03 Sep 2002 22:32:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 22:32:39 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Complex Complex MiniMiniMinMinMin Because it was a slow day today, and because I said I would, here are the lyrics to a song I wrote some time ago with my father. It's along the lines of that growing paragraph Wonko and I were shooting back and forth, but not as large, mercifully... There's really no set music, in case anyone cares to ask. Just strum a guitar in a repetitive cycle. Here it is, then, Complex Complex. If you’re looking at a group of buildings, And they leave you feeling worried and nervous: That’s a COMPLEX COMPLEX... If the arrangement of the buildings is intricate, And the construction materials are impervious: That’s a COMPLEX CONCRETE complex complex... If they are occupied by some novice nuns Who have given up their former lives of sin: That’s a complex concrete CONVERT CONVENT complex complex... If the walls seem to bulge a little outward, While the roofs are clearly bending in: That’s a complex concrete CONCAVE CONVEX convert convent complex complex: If recycling bins are scattered here and there, And the soil seems extremely dense and hard: That’s a complex concrete concave convex convert convent COMPRESSED COMPOST complex complex... If one section of the ground is being used As a jail or prison exercise yard: That’s a complex concrete concave convex convert convent CONVICT COMPOUND compressed compost complex complex... If despite the size, the space seems rather small, Yet it fulfills all expectations for its role: That’s a COMPACT COMPLETE complex concrete concave convex convert convent convict compound compressed compost complex complex... If the folks who live there follow Chairman Mao But you agree not to tell a single soul: That’s a COMMUNIST COMPACT compact complete complex concrete concave convex convert convent convict compound compressed compost complex (pause) complex! I feel all warm inside now... nope, that's just a flight-or-fight response. I put on the Coat of Solitude and hide. [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:06:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:06:30 -0400 From: Daniel Lepage dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer (Wednesday evening) Quoth Baron von Skippy, >>> When you make spoon-business a public forum, is that because you think >> Joel >>> will be back shortly, or because you just don't like using >> bnomic-private? >>> What I mean is, is Joel coming back soon? >> >> Joel's already back, in a sense. >> >> His computer is back online, and if you connect to its IP address, you can >> get the nomic.net Web site, and all that other good stuff. It's just a >> matter of waiting for the DNS to get caught up. >> >> ...dave >> >> > -[[Well, some things are back, and some aren't... spoon-discuss and > spoon-business are not working as far as I can tell.]] Isn't that what Dave means by 'waiting for the DNS to get caught up'? The thing doesn't know where Joel is yet. -- Wonko From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:37:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:37:50 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer (Wednesday evening) > >>> When you make spoon-business a public forum, is that because you think > >> Joel > >>> will be back shortly, or because you just don't like using > >> bnomic-private? > >>> What I mean is, is Joel coming back soon? > >> > >> Joel's already back, in a sense. > >> > >> His computer is back online, and if you connect to its IP address, you >can > >> get the nomic.net Web site, and all that other good stuff. It's just a > >> matter of waiting for the DNS to get caught up. > >> > >> ...dave > >> > >> > > -[[Well, some things are back, and some aren't... spoon-discuss and > > spoon-business are not working as far as I can tell.]] > >Isn't that what Dave means by 'waiting for the DNS to get caught up'? The >thing doesn't know where Joel is yet. > >-- >Wonko > -*blank stare* Maybe. What's a DNS?- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:39:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:39:23 -0400 From: Daniel Lepage dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer (Wednesday evening) Quoth Baron von Skippy, >>>>> When you make spoon-business a public forum, is that because you think >>>> Joel >>>>> will be back shortly, or because you just don't like using >>>> bnomic-private? >>>>> What I mean is, is Joel coming back soon? >>>> >>>> Joel's already back, in a sense. >>>> >>>> His computer is back online, and if you connect to its IP address, you >> can >>>> get the nomic.net Web site, and all that other good stuff. It's just a >>>> matter of waiting for the DNS to get caught up. >>>> >>>> ...dave >>>> >>>> >>> -[[Well, some things are back, and some aren't... spoon-discuss and >>> spoon-business are not working as far as I can tell.]] >> >> Isn't that what Dave means by 'waiting for the DNS to get caught up'? The >> thing doesn't know where Joel is yet. >> >> -- >> Wonko >> > -*blank stare* Maybe. What's a DNS?- > I don't remember what the acronym stands for - something Network Server or something like that. But as I understand it, when you ask for, say, cornell.edu, the DNS is the thingy that knows what to connect you to, that is, knows where the actual cornell.edu sever is. If it doesn't know where your server is, it looks around, querying other servers, etc. This is what happens during that long pause between when you hit enter and when explorer tells you that it can't find nomic.net. If neither the DNS nor any of its buddies can find the server, it tells you that it can't be found. Or at least, that's how I understand it. I'm not an expert in this field, so anybody that actually knows what I'm talking about, please correct me if I've said something really stupid. -- Wonko From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:50:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:50:21 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer (Wednesday evening) On Friday 06 September 2002 04:39 pm, Daniel Lepage wrote: > I don't remember what the acronym stands for - something Network Server= or > something like that. But as I understand it, when you ask for, say, > cornell.edu, the DNS is the thingy that knows what to connect you to, t= hat > is, knows where the actual cornell.edu sever is. If it doesn't know whe= re > your server is, it looks around, querying other servers, etc. This is w= hat > happens during that long pause between when you hit enter and when expl= orer > tells you that it can't find nomic.net. If neither the DNS nor any of i= ts > buddies can find the server, it tells you that it can't be found. > > Or at least, that's how I understand it. I'm not an expert in this fiel= d, > so anybody that actually knows what I'm talking about, please correct m= e if > I've said something really stupid. DNS =3D Domain Name Service. Read http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=3D37240 --=20 bd I consider the day misspent that I am not either charged with a crime, or arrested for one. =09=09-- "Ratsy" Tourbillon From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:59:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:59:14 -0400 From: Daniel Lepage dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] Judgement on CFI 977 Quoth Joshua Caudle, > Rule 503 in nweek 22 did not state that a glass must be in a player's > possesion in order for the player to drink said glass. However, since Rule 636 > has greater Chutzpah a than Rule 503 the glass cannot be in the possession of > another player. Therefore it is the duty of the administrator to select a > legal glass for consumption as stated in Rule 25. If no appropiate glasses > are currently available, Rule 25 would also place the onus of creating said > glass on the administrator. But the existance of Champagne is a prerequisite for drinking. The statement "a player may drink a glass of champagne" is the equivelant of saying that a player may perform the action "drink" on a "glass of champagne". That does not mean that you can force the creation of a glass by attempting to drink one; it means you are allowed to target a glass of Champagne with the action "drink". What you're claiming would be the equivalent of saying that because players can vote Shelve on proposals, if there are no proposals, the administrator must create a new one if you declare that you're voting Shelve on a proposal. That's ludicrous. If you announce that you're voting Shelve on a proposal when there are no proposals, the action will fail because there is no proposal for you to vote Shelve on. It will not be an *illegal* action - it isn't banned by the rules. But it will be an *impossible* action, because there is no way for it to be carried out. -- Wonko From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:45:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:45:56 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) > >>>>> When you make spoon-business a public forum, is that because you >think > >>>> Joel > >>>>> will be back shortly, or because you just don't like using > >>>> bnomic-private? > >>>>> What I mean is, is Joel coming back soon? > >>>> > >>>> Joel's already back, in a sense. > >>>> > >>>> His computer is back online, and if you connect to its IP address, >you > >> can > >>>> get the nomic.net Web site, and all that other good stuff. It's just >a > >>>> matter of waiting for the DNS to get caught up. > >>>> > >>>> ...dave > >>>> > >>>> > >>> -[[Well, some things are back, and some aren't... spoon-discuss and > >>> spoon-business are not working as far as I can tell.]] > >> > >> Isn't that what Dave means by 'waiting for the DNS to get caught up'? >The > >> thing doesn't know where Joel is yet. > >> > >> -- > >> Wonko > >> > > -*blank stare* Maybe. What's a DNS?- > > > >I don't remember what the acronym stands for - something Network Server or >something like that. But as I understand it, when you ask for, say, >cornell.edu, the DNS is the thingy that knows what to connect you to, that >is, knows where the actual cornell.edu sever is. If it doesn't know where >your server is, it looks around, querying other servers, etc. This is what >happens during that long pause between when you hit enter and when explorer >tells you that it can't find nomic.net. If neither the DNS nor any of its >buddies can find the server, it tells you that it can't be found. > >Or at least, that's how I understand it. I'm not an expert in this field, >so >anybody that actually knows what I'm talking about, please correct me if >I've said something really stupid. > >-- >Wonko > -*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:39:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:39:45 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) On 9/6/02 at 10:45 PM Baron von Skippy wrote: >-*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- > > [[BvS]] Wonko gave the short answer on what a DNS does. I can give a longer one,= if it's desired. Is it desired? Glotmorf From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:44:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:44:12 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) On Saturday 07 September 2002 10:39 pm, Glotmorf wrote: > On 9/6/02 at 10:45 PM Baron von Skippy wrote: > >-*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- > > > > [[BvS]] > > Wonko gave the short answer on what a DNS does. I can give a longer on= e, > if it's desired. Is it desired? Read the link I gave. It'll give you far too much info on DNS. --=20 bd He is truly wise who gains wisdom from another's mishap. From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:21:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:21:15 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) > >-*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- > > > > [[BvS]] > >Wonko gave the short answer on what a DNS does. I can give a longer one, >if it's desired. Is it desired? > > Glotmorf > -Well, Wonko gave the short answer and I went thud. (Just because I understand it doesn't mean I don't still go thud...) No, don't give the longer. Give the shorter: "Thingy broke. Not work yet. You'll know when it does."- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:29:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:29:23 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) On 9/8/02 at 12:21 AM Baron von Skippy wrote: >> >-*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- >> > >> > [[BvS]] >> >>Wonko gave the short answer on what a DNS does. I can give a longer one,= >>if it's desired. Is it desired? >> >> Glotmorf >> >-Well, Wonko gave the short answer and I went thud. (Just because I >understand it doesn't mean I don't still go thud...) No, don't give the >longer. Give the shorter: "Thingy broke. Not work yet. You'll know when it= >does."- > > [[BvS]] And that's assuming it was working properly in the first place. :) Glotmorf From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:11:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:11:42 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] The Daily Recognizer(Wednesday evening) > >> >-*blank stare* *scratches head* *goes cross-eyed* *thud*- > >> > > >> > [[BvS]] > >> > >>Wonko gave the short answer on what a DNS does. I can give a longer >one, > >>if it's desired. Is it desired? > >> > >> Glotmorf > >> > >-Well, Wonko gave the short answer and I went thud. (Just because I > >understand it doesn't mean I don't still go thud...) No, don't give the > >longer. Give the shorter: "Thingy broke. Not work yet. You'll know when >it > >does."- > > > > [[BvS]] > >And that's assuming it was working properly in the first place. :) > > Glotmorf > -Too many words! *whump*- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:22:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:22:56 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [spoon-discuss] we are back On Wednesday 04 September 2002 04:17 pm, Joel Uckelman wrote: > See the subject line. IP? --=20 bd I invented skydiving in 1989! From naath_sedai@yahoo.co.uk Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:03:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:03:32 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Naath=20Thabana?= naath_sedai@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] NWEEK 22 BALLOT My votes > > > Proposal 943/0: Precipitation (The Voice) YES > > > Proposal 951/1: Cleaning Up After Wonko's Cleanup > (M-Tek) YES > > > Proposal 952/0: Nweek 22 Insta-Prop (House Grem) YES > > > Proposal 953/0: Cleaning Up (bd) YES > > > Proposal 954/0: Insider trading is illegal (bd) YES > > > Proposal 955/0: Nseasons, v.2 (The Voice) NO > > > Proposal 956/0: He Had Killer Charm. Well... > Winning Charm (The Voice) YES > > > Proposal 957/0: Less is More: The Ruleset (bd) YES > > > Proposal 958/3: Wealth Control (Athena) NO > > > Proposal 959/0: A Little More: Ministries (The > Administrator) YES > > > Proposal 960/0: What the Hell is an Agent? > (Mithrandir) YES > > > Proposal 961/0: Yesterday's News (Mithrandir) NO > > > Proposal 962/0: Solving one of the Quest's > Problems (Mithrandir) YES > > > Proposal 963/0: Oh Yes, You'll Pay (Mithrandir) YES > > > Proposal 964/0: There was Something Else... Oh > Yeah, a Scapegoat! (Mithrandir) NO > > > Proposal 965/0: Night of the Living Dead Stock > Market (M-Tek) YES > > > Proposal 966/1: Graves, Make That my New Motto > (Baron von Skippy) YES > > > Proposal 967/1: Healthy Competition, My Ass (Baron > von Skippy) NO> > > Proposal 968/1: And now, the Dramatic Conclusion > (Baron von Skippy) NO > > > Proposal 969/4: The Game is Afoot! I'll Take "Anal > Bum Covers" for 7,000 > > (Baron von Skippy) YES > > > Proposal 970/0: Eddie's in the Space-Time > Continuum (Baron von Skippy) YES > > > Proposal 971/1: untitled champagne proposal > (Squire of Dimness) YES > > > Proposal 972/0: Marching through Wall Street > (Glotmorf) NO > > > Proposal 973/0: Public Exposure (Glotmorf) NO > > > Proposal 974/0: Bad Dog! (Orc In a Spacesuit) YES > > > Proposal 975/0: Towel Racks (bd) YES > > > Proposal 976/0: These Titles Ought To Last (Orc In > a Spacesuit) YES > > > Proposal 978/0: Can't Touch This (Orc In a > Spacesuit) YES > > > Proposal 979/0: This Wasn't In My Job > Description... (Glotmorf) NO > > > Proposal 980/0: A bit of Exorc. (Wonko) NO > > > Proposal 981/0: A bit more Exorc. (Wonko) NO> > > Proposal 982/0: A little more (Wonko) NO > > > Proposal 983/0: And finally... (Wonko) YES > > > Proposal 984/0: Fixing the Stock Market (Wonko) YES > > > Proposal 985/0: Ambassador Biweekly (Athena) YES > > > Proposal 986/0: The World is An Atheist's Temple > (Athena) YES > > > Proposal 987/0: Lord of the Stock Scam (Athena) YES > > > Proposal 989/0: Mutations BAD! Krunk smash! (bd) NO Naath ===== Like duct tape the force is, a light side and a dark side it has, holds the universe together it does, hmm. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:52:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:52:41 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] nomic.net down Can anyone post the current proposals, or nomic.net's IP? --=20 bd Life is a POPULARITY CONTEST! I'm REFRESHINGLY CANDID!! From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:15:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:15:01 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Re: [Bnomic-private] Saving a fortune... On Friday 13 September 2002 06:49 pm, Daniel Lepage wrote: > [[That's for all the Wealthy Bastard Contests. They all happened this > nweek, but that was still long, long ago. But I hadn't forgotten.]] What was that contest again? --=20 bd Marriage is low down, but you spend the rest of your life paying for it. =09=09-- Baskins From mcfoufou@umich.edu Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:12:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy "Athena" Cook mcfoufou@umich.edu Subject: [BNomic-Public] Contest I believe I won the History Contest by naming Jesus/Jebus, Wonko, but I did not receive any prize. Do I get one? Athena <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "All our belief systems, religions, and governments are the result of a series of mistakes that turned out to be better at making copies of themselves after all." -Richard Brodie http://www.memecentral.com/Level3.htm "We look at the world through windows on which have been drawn grids (concepts). Different philosophies use different grids. A culture is a group of people with rather similar grids. Through a window we view chaos, and relate it to the points on our grid, and thereby understand it. The ORDER is in the GRID." -The Principia Discordia <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Jeremy Cook The Goddess Athena mcfoufou@umich.edu From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:20:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:20:11 -0400 From: Daniel Lepage dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] My money To make things easier for the admin, here's what I did earlier, done out: For all 38 proposals, I bought 50 shares of each at 50 BNS apiece. That's 95000 BNS. For each of the five coporate stocks, I bought 50 shares each at 10 BNS apiece. That's 2500 BNS. For each player, I bought 50 shares at n/10 rounded up BNS per share, n being the player's score. That translates to: 50 shares of: Athena(99 points = 10 BNS) = 500 BNS BvS(1 point = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS bd(1 point = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS Dan(70 points = 7 BNS) = 350 BNS Glotmorf(281 points = 29 BNS) = 1450 BNS Iain(58 points = 6 BNS) = 300 BNS Mithrandir(8 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS Naath(2 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS Orc(1 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS Rob(43 points = 5 BNS) = 250 BNS Squire(0 points = 0 BNS) = 0 BNS Voice(249 points = 25 BNS) = 1250 BNS WC(29 points = 3 BNS) = 150 BNS Total Invested in players = 4500 BNS Total invested in Stocks overall= 102000 BNS Plus 1100 invested in Score = 103100 BNS spent. The remaining 4 million or so just got scrapped down to 500 by a proposal. Depending on how various proposals do, I should be able to collect at least enough from my investments as I spent on them. ;) -- Wonko The Still Moderately Wealthy Bastard From glotmorf@earthlink.net Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:31:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:31:58 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] My money On 9/13/02 at 11:20 PM Daniel Lepage wrote: >To make things easier for the admin, here's what I did earlier, done out: > >For all 38 proposals, I bought 50 shares of each at 50 BNS apiece. That's >95000 BNS. > >For each of the five coporate stocks, I bought 50 shares each at 10 BNS >apiece. That's 2500 BNS. > >For each player, I bought 50 shares at n/10 rounded up BNS per share, n >being the player's score. That translates to: > >50 shares of: >Athena(99 points =3D 10 BNS) =3D 500 BNS >BvS(1 point =3D 1 BNS) =3D 50 BNS >bd(1 point =3D 1 BNS) =3D 50 BNS >Dan(70 points =3D 7 BNS) =3D 350 BNS >Glotmorf(281 points =3D 29 BNS) =3D 1450 BNS >Iain(58 points =3D 6 BNS) =3D 300 BNS >Mithrandir(8 points =3D 1 BNS) =3D 50 BNS >Naath(2 points =3D 1 BNS) =3D 50 BNS >Orc(1 points =3D 1 BNS) =3D 50 BNS >Rob(43 points =3D 5 BNS) =3D 250 BNS >Squire(0 points =3D 0 BNS) =3D 0 BNS >Voice(249 points =3D 25 BNS) =3D 1250 BNS >WC(29 points =3D 3 BNS) =3D 150 BNS > >Total Invested in players =3D 4500 BNS > >Total invested in Stocks overall=3D 102000 BNS > >Plus 1100 invested in Score =3D 103100 BNS spent. > >The remaining 4 million or so just got scrapped down to 500 by a proposal. > >Depending on how various proposals do, I should be able to collect at= least >enough from my investments as I spent on them. ;) > >-- >Wonko >The Still Moderately Wealthy Bastard And to think, everyone but me voted no on my rollback proposal. Okay, someone else fix this mess. Glotmorf From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:36:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:36:20 -0400 From: Daniel Lepage dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] My money Quoth Glotmorf, > On 9/13/02 at 11:20 PM Daniel Lepage wrote: > >> To make things easier for the admin, here's what I did earlier, done out: >> >> For all 38 proposals, I bought 50 shares of each at 50 BNS apiece. That's >> 95000 BNS. >> >> For each of the five coporate stocks, I bought 50 shares each at 10 BNS >> apiece. That's 2500 BNS. >> >> For each player, I bought 50 shares at n/10 rounded up BNS per share, n >> being the player's score. That translates to: >> >> 50 shares of: >> Athena(99 points = 10 BNS) = 500 BNS >> BvS(1 point = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS >> bd(1 point = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS >> Dan(70 points = 7 BNS) = 350 BNS >> Glotmorf(281 points = 29 BNS) = 1450 BNS >> Iain(58 points = 6 BNS) = 300 BNS >> Mithrandir(8 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS >> Naath(2 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS >> Orc(1 points = 1 BNS) = 50 BNS >> Rob(43 points = 5 BNS) = 250 BNS >> Squire(0 points = 0 BNS) = 0 BNS >> Voice(249 points = 25 BNS) = 1250 BNS >> WC(29 points = 3 BNS) = 150 BNS >> >> Total Invested in players = 4500 BNS >> >> Total invested in Stocks overall= 102000 BNS >> >> Plus 1100 invested in Score = 103100 BNS spent. >> >> The remaining 4 million or so just got scrapped down to 500 by a proposal. >> >> Depending on how various proposals do, I should be able to collect at least >> enough from my investments as I spent on them. ;) >> >> -- >> Wonko >> The Still Moderately Wealthy Bastard > > And to think, everyone but me voted no on my rollback proposal. > > Okay, someone else fix this mess. > It's not a mess, I just happen to be moderately wealthy at the moment. If somebody comes up with something cool for me to spend it on, I'll get rid of it. It's not really a problem now - there's more than enough BNS in the bank to allow the economy to function. As for something cool to spend it on, I have some ideas about that... -- Wonko From squire_of_dimness@sbcglobal.net Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:07:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:07:41 -0500 From: Joshua Caudle squire_of_dimness@sbcglobal.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] RE: MY Money Actually Wonko Glotmorph gave me a 1 point gift when I began the game to prevent just this sort of exploitation. that gift was recognised by the admin way back on nday 4. thsly it'll cost you 50 BNS to buy stock in me... -Squire From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:28:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:28:27 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] CFI -- Prop 958 [[ I hate to do this, but this is how the rules are built right now. I= hate to say I told you so...hey, who am I kidding? ]] I make the following CFI: Statement: Voting in favor of Proposal 958 is in violation of Rules 897 and 636;= therefore, affirmative votes for Proposal 958 cannot be counted. Analysis: Shillings are objects. Wonko's shillings are in Wonko's possession. Rule= 897 says "B Nomic Shillings may only be manipulated as specified in the= rules." Rule 636 says "no player may modify the state of any object in= possession of another player, without the other player's explicit= permission in a public forum." Wonko did not give permission in a public= forum for eir shillings to be modified. Therefore, it is illegal for any= player to vote in favor of a proposal that modifies Wonko's shillings,= e.g. by transferring them to the Bank. Glotmorf From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:50:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:50:10 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] CFI -- Prop 958 On Saturday 14 September 2002 01:28 pm, Glotmorf wrote: > [[ I hate to do this, but this is how the rules are built right now. I > hate to say I told you so...hey, who am I kidding? ]] Good thing this is a private forum. --=20 bd Be open to other people -- they may enrich your dream. From glotmorf@earthlink.net Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:03:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:03:03 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] CFI -- Prop 958 On 9/14/02 at 1:50 PM bd wrote: >On Saturday 14 September 2002 01:28 pm, Glotmorf wrote: >> [[ I hate to do this, but this is how the rules are built right now. I >> hate to say I told you so...hey, who am I kidding? ]] > >Good thing this is a private forum. > >-- >bd >Be open to other people -- they may enrich your dream. Aw jeez. Someone go get some dogs and hunt Joel down, please? Thanks, bd. Glotmorf From mhaywood383@hotmail.com Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:20:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:20:27 -0400 From: Mark Haywood mhaywood383@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] RE: MY Money >Actually Wonko Glotmorph gave me a 1 point gift when I began the game to >prevent just this sort of exploitation. that gift was recognised by the >admin way back on nday 4. thsly it'll cost you 50 BNS to buy stock in me... > >-Squire > So that's another 50 of his 4.9 (now, I suppose, 4.8) million BNS? ________________________________________________________________________ Mithrandir _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:33:10 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:33:10 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] CFI -- Prop 958 > >On Saturday 14 September 2002 01:28 pm, Glotmorf wrote: > >> [[ I hate to do this, but this is how the rules are built right now. I > >> hate to say I told you so...hey, who am I kidding? ]] > > > >Good thing this is a private forum. > > > >-- > >bd > >Be open to other people -- they may enrich your dream. > >Aw jeez. Someone go get some dogs and hunt Joel down, please? > >Thanks, bd. > > Glotmorf -Bloodhounds or dobermans?- [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dplepage@twcny.rr.com Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:27:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:27:37 -0400 From: Wonko dplepage@twcny.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] RE: MY Money Quoth Joshua Caudle, > Actually Wonko Glotmorph gave me a 1 point gift when I began the game to > prevent just this sort of exploitation. that gift was recognised by the > admin way back on nday 4. thsly it'll cost you 50 BNS to buy stock in me... > It's not reflected on the 'roster' page. But hey, that's 50 more BNS for me! Unless Glotmorf's CFI goes through, in which case all this was unneccessary. -- Wonko From bdonlan@maine.rr.com Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:24:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:24:10 -0400 From: bd bdonlan@maine.rr.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Chat I've found DALnet unreliable, so I've set up a #bnomic channel in slashne= t=20 (irc.slashnet.org). --=20 bd There are more ways of killing a cat than choking her with cream. From baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:48:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:48:50 -0400 From: Baron von Skippy baronvonskippy@hotmail.com Subject: [BNomic-Public] Proposal: From up here, you can see miles! [[I see a whole big mega-story in all this... working together is good if I can profit from it. Oh, and I'm not sure who's a public forum, so I sent this to both.]] {{ __A New World to Explore... and Conquer__ [[ It was a cloudy afternoon over the vSOI office complex. It was supposed to rain that afternoon. The Baron was not having a good day. With Wonko's announcement that he intended to start a company which could end up competing with vSOI, vSOI stock was down seven percent that nweek, as the market prepared for a new division of holdings and assets. In addition, although the police had declared the action the work of terrorists, the Baron was sure Glotmorf didn't really believe that. The firefight his guards had had with a next-generation helicopter should have been evidence enough of that. And to top it off, performing unspeakably immoral acts like stealing technology and vaporizing half the evidence always gave him an ice cream headache. His staff had learned to interpret his moods, and those he could track down were all being more industrious than usual, so he couldn't even yell at anyone. vSOI needed a boost, and he needed something good to happen. Anything... There was a knock at the door. Not a gentle, worried knock, but a definitive knock full of self-assurance, with no hint as to the emotions of the knocker. The Baron smiled wryly. Not a trace of the fear most of his other employees would have. He had yet to regret hiring the man. "Come in, Campion." Commander Campion, head of vSOI Black Ops commando forces, entered the office, wearing a black suit with a black tie and gray shirt instead of his vSOI combat garb. Since most vSOI employees didn't know he existed, he never wore the fatigues outside of missions. Officially, he was senior vice president of vSET, von Skippy Experimental Technologies, which was a legitimate front for the Black Ops force. Employees had to have exceptional loyalty to vSOI to get into vSET, loyalty and a weak sense of ethics. Campion didn't come to his office very often. Something was clearly up. maybe it had to do with the manila folder with bits of photographic paper sticking out the edges. Or maybe the sun would set in the east. "Sir, I have astounding news. While testing the speeders, one pilot lost track of his position, and when he checked it, he was at (23,14)." Campion paused for this to sink in. Baron tried to ignore his headache and figure out why that was so damn important. (23,14)? He conjured up a mental map of the Grid. (23,14) was right... oh. The Baron's eyes and jaw snapped open. "But... that's not possible!" "I know, sir, so we recalled the speeder, checked the instrumentation on another speeder, and sent it out on recon to confirm. It reached (30,10), looped around, and re-entered the Grid from (17,21). Follow-up flights have established that the Grid is at least twice as large in both dimensions as was previously believed. Here are the preliminary reports."]] {{ Replace the text of 301.A.1 with "There exists an environment known as the Grid. The Grid is composed of units, or Squares. The Grid is 40 units wide by 40 units tall. The units are numbered from 1 to 40 horizontally (the x axis) and 1 to 40 vertically (the y axis). Each unit on the Grid can be expressed as an (x,y) coordinate location, with (1,1) in the lower left-hand corner, and (40,40) in the upper right. The area of the grid defined by a square with corners at (1,1), (20,1), (1,20), and (20,20) is the Football Grid. The remaining area is the Empire Grid. Sections C, E.1-E.4, and F of this rule only apply to the Football Grid. All other sections apply to the entire Grid. Squares on the Empire Grid are also called "lands." A collection of lands owned by a player is called an Empire. Players are encouraged to name their Empires." }} [["Empire Grid?" "That's page 4, sir. I think you'll like it."]] {{ Add a subsection to Rule 301: A.3.3. Ownership Players may purchase lands from vSOI at a cost of 50 points apiece. Players may only purchase squares that border the Football Grid, the border of the Empire Grid, or another square they control, unless there are no squares that meet these qualifications, in which case they may purchase any land. Members of vSOI may purchase lands for 35 points. No land may be purchased such that any player that owns lands would then have no available lands bordering their lands. }} [["You were right. I do like it. I have a few questions, though. One: Why should people buy lands, and two, who'll keep track of it all?" "Pages 5 and 7, sir."]] {{ Add a subsection to Rule 301: E.5. Improvements Players may purchase improvements for lands they own from the Gnome account. Improvements may only be destroyed by sale, which takes 2/3, rounded up, of the improvement's cost from the Gnome Account and gives it to the owner, or by the land the improvement is on becoming of type Fire. Lands may not have more than one improvement on them at any time. E.5.1. Mines Mines may be purchased for 20 points by non-vSOI members, or 15 points by vSOI members. Mines give the owner of the land they are on 15 Resource Units per nweek. There is no limit on the number of Mines a player may own. E.5.2. Factories Factories may be purchased for 30 points by non-vSOI members, or 22 points by vSOI members. Factories give the owner of the land they are on 50 BNS per nweek. No player may own more than 12 Factories at any time. If a player would own more than 12 Factories, a random Factory that player controls is sold. E.5.3. Cities Cities may be purchased for 50 points by non-vSOI members, or 40 points by vSOI members. Cities give the owner of the land they are on one point for each nweek since their purchase, up to a maximum of eight, plus one point for each set of one Mine and one Factory immediately bordering that city, up to a maximum of two. No player may own more than 8 cities, and no player may own more cities than they do any other improvement. }} {{ In 625.C.1, add the word "Football" before all occurences of the word "Grid." }} {{ Add the following section, appropriately numbered, to Rule 625.C: The Ministry of The Empire There exists a Ministry of the Empire. The Minister of the Empire may be referred to as the Surveyor. The Surveyor is responible for keeping track of all changes to the Empire Grid and posting those changes on a web page whose URL has been announced on a public forum. At the end of each nweek, the Surveyor shall be paid one point and 10 BNS for each player who alters the status of the Empire Grid. }} {{ Make Baron von Skippy the first Minister of the Empire. }} [["You ever had an ice cream headache, Campion?" "I used to get them all the time just after you hired me, sir." "Right. Now, we need a hook, and I have an idea for one. It'll cost us, but it may be worth it to encourage expansionism."]] {{ Create a new rule: __Imperial Seeds__ There exist carryable objects called Imperial Seeds. A player may destroy an Imperial Seed they hold by announcing their intent to do so in a public forum. If a player destroys eir Imperial Seed in this manner, they recieve 5 lands, 1 Mine, 1 Factory, and 1 City. If there are no more Imperial Seeds in play, repeal this rule. }} {{ Give each player an Imperial Seed. }} {{ Remove all points from the Gnome Account. }} [["Niches. It's all about niches. If you can't find one to fill, create one. Campion, you and your boys have done a marvelous job. I think it's about time your department got a raise, don't you?" "Thank you, sir." "Don't mention it, it's probably overdue anyway. Now, then, do you know what the one thing every empire has had in common is?" The commander grinned. It wasn't a friendly grin. It was a predatory grin, like a reverse Cheshire Cat, where you know the next thing you'll see is the whole cat, probably coming at your head at high speed. "Conquest?" "Indeed." The Baron hit a button on the phone on his desk. "Ms. Samson, kindly cancel all of my appointments for this afternoon." Outside, the first big drops of what looked to be rather a large storm began to fall. ]] }} [[BvS]] _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From glotmorf@earthlink.net Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:50:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:50:11 -0400 From: Glotmorf glotmorf@earthlink.net Subject: [BNomic-Public] All them proposals Think we need to resubmit all our proposals on Spoon-Business? Glotmorf