[Bnomic-private] Re: [spoon-discuss] Too quiet, bd?

[Orc In A Spacesuit]

Well, you did a nice reply, and so did Glotmorf, but you used the old 
version.  The latest (but still incomplete) version is at
http://comp.uark.edu/~jas29/nomic/
and is a combination of uber-prop_new-rules.txt, 
uber-prop_repeals+revisions.txt, and uber-prop_new-grid.txt.
uber-prop_summary.txt is an in-progress summary of actual changes, and is 
far from finalized.

The reason I put it on the web page instead of sending it via email is so 
that I don't fill your email with 80 kb emails (and their responses), and so 
you guys will always have access to the latest version.

In response to Glotmorf's concerns about it looking like VB and a database, 
I have already fixed that up some.  Many grammar mistakes have been fixed, 
and more.  I still plan to rework actions, as it doesn't yet seem right.  A 
lot of things you had problems with are fixed, and others will be.

Here are a few specific responses:

>If a physical object can be in only one location, that means that if
>DimSpace is defined to be a Physical Region, players could not occupy both 
>a
>DimSpace location and a GridSpace Location. That's bad.

Well, this rule defers to that imaginary DimSpace one.  I have thought of a 
much better way to do DimSpace, without all the confusing Location stuff 
getting mixed in.  All I need if for you guys to say you want Dimensions, 
and it's in.

>Under the current ruleset, at least, these also need to be able to be the
>target of an action which moves them (moves them from one square to a
>consecutive one, that is) due to things such as PinBall Guns.

Fixing that when I rework the Actions.


>I've been trying for a long time to come up with something to do with Quake 
>.  Any ideas?

Yes, I have it completely worked out in my mind.  Why do you think I 
included the (currently useless) Action, Dodge Matrix-Style?  Were gonna 
play MatrixNomiQuake and Jedi Football!

>Nevermind, I've just had a few... Has anyone here ever played 'Worms'?

>If you have, think about what might come of mixing a Sheep Gnome with a 
>Bomb
>Gnome...

Yes.  I am considering adding more Gnome possibilities when I streamline the 
whole Gnome thing.

>So thing such as the existance of players and other objects are not part of 
>the GameState?

I am making the Gamestate be something different, just an Object that is a 
catch-all for things that don't really apply elsewhere.  All the "don't mess 
with the Game State" rules and provisions have been (or will be) rewritten 
to apply to everything.

>So, for example, the admin could not end a Road Trip while the Clock was 
>Off, because that would be an action?

This rule defers to those that contradict it, and when I get to the (now 
self-repealed) Road Trip rule, I will include "this action may be taken 
while The Clock is Off".  Already did the same for Leave.

>Also, what about the 'no climbing' rule - you can't move to a square whose 
>depth is less than yours by more than 4 units.

Will be fixed when I rework Actions.

> > Action: Jump
>How does this differ from Move?

It lets you skip a space, and move 2.  I will probably make it let you deal 
with some height restrictions.

>Matrix Dodging is all-new, isn't it?

Yup.

> > Action: Launch
>So, same as Throw, but 1 nday longer? Why not just allow Throwing >things 
>to specify a time?

This is suppossed to represent just tossing something up really high in the 
air, and having it land randomly.  I wanted to do that in-game, and I 
figured I would make it possible.

Orc In A Spacesuit
Current Status: Still working away, trying to assauge all your concerns.


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