[Bnomic-private] Re: Actions

[Daniel Lepage]

On Sep 15, 2004, at 11.31 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:

> I'm glad we're getting back to this, but there's not much we can do
> without the Wiki. I can't update the Roster, because it's on the Wiki.
> The list archives aren't up either, so I'd miss all the stuff that
> happened a few weeks ago.

This weekend I'll probably have time to fix up the backup wiki, but it 
still will be missing all changes from the past few nweeks.

O'course, by this weekend the real wiki should be back up, so it'll be 
a moot point, but still.

I think in the future we should require data like that to be posted to 
a mailing list say, once an nweek, so that we can deal with server 
loss, etc. fairly fluidly.

> But since Wonko Won, all points are destroyed, so the following is a
> temporary Roster:
>
> All players have 0 points.
>
> Oh, and I notice we don't have the circuit breaker either. I call an
> election for the FCC 50,000,000,000 times. I Win 1,000,000,000 times.

My win was better than your win! :P

Seriously, though, it would be nice to have a good way of dealing with 
this sort of thing. I never liked the Circuit breaker because it struck 
me as awfully crude, and it also could be a stumbling block for 
otherwise-good scams. Like somebody or other said, we need more good 
scams.

At the same time, there's not much fun in letting scams like this 
appear and just letting everybody claim a billion wins. I'd prefer that 
the number of wins each player has reflect the number of clever things 
e's done, not the number of clever things e's been around to mimic.

I can see a couple ways to do this, each with its pros and cons:
1) Make a 'patent' system, where a player can patent a scam. A CFI can 
determine that another scam attempt was too similar to the first to 
warrant working, and thus can nullify the effects of mimic-scams.
2) Put wins up to vote. Each player can rate each win each nweek, on a 
scale of, say, 0 to 20. Anything rated below a 5 is ignored and 
unrecorded; above 5, the average rating is recorded on some 'total 
cleverness to date' scale. This would also allow for other props to 
increase cleverness when a scam that didn't end in a win happened.
3) Break ways of winning into a couple of categories, and do a 
circuit-breaker thing on each category. For example, we could have 'win 
by amassing points', 'win by generation of unlimited points', 'win by 
Tildex', etc.

> And it's not clear to me that only the last election matters. They all
> began on the same nday, so they all end at the same time. I don't know
> what to make of that.

I claim that they happen 'simultaneously in sequential order', so that 
they all happen at once, but the effects are calculated as if they'd 
happened in the order they started. I say this because we have to have 
some interpretation, and this is as good as any, and also supported by 
the rules on proposals.

> What nday is it, by the way?

2. It became nday one when I sent out the ballot results.

-- 
Wonko

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